Comments on: FBI Applicant Processing http://www.clearancejobsblog.com/cleared-news/fbi-applicant-processing/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fbi-applicant-processing Defense jobs, security clearance jobs, and intelligence jobs, industry news, and security clearance advice for the security cleared professional Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:47:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The Ghost http://www.clearancejobsblog.com/cleared-news/fbi-applicant-processing/comment-page-1/#comment-46423 The Ghost Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:06:30 +0000 http://www.clearancejobsblog.com/?p=794#comment-46423 Ah, yes, don't these numbers make everything seem so clean and organized. Sorry to say, but from my and others' experience the FBI polygraph is a sham. In my office 3 of us applied to the FBI as support staff with knowledge in critical areas. All three were "failed" due to the polygraph. Those that walk in with an intent to be honest should know they have no guarantee of passing. None whatsoever. Sadly, knowing what I know now, I believe going in with an intent to lie would have resulted in a pass. Foreign intelligence agencies of course will know how to beat this flimsy charade, while honest people will be thrown to the lions. Going through a polygraph can also be traumatic (at least it was for us). For those with critical knowedge skills (language, cyber-warfare geeks etc.) new to the intel world, I say, let our experience not be repeated in your life. There are other places to go where your talents will be appreciated, both inside government and out. Don't believe me? Then look carefully at the numbers above. Let's take the professional staff, and review together (since that's what I'm familiar with). First, leave out the 483 folks who are not interested or not available. Presumably they had other opportunities. That leaves 1,406 people that were rejected. 825 of those were due to the polygraph. That's four sevenths. Four sevenths of these people were rejected because they "failed" the polygraph, the idea being implied (but rarely overtly stated) that this group of people are not honest, or something like that. Honestly now, ask yourself a question. Do you believe that many cheats apply to work for the FBI? Good luck. Ah, yes, don’t these numbers make everything seem so clean and organized. Sorry to say, but from my and others’ experience the FBI polygraph is a sham. In my office 3 of us applied to the FBI as support staff with knowledge in critical areas. All three were “failed” due to the polygraph. Those that walk in with an intent to be honest should know they have no guarantee of passing. None whatsoever. Sadly, knowing what I know now, I believe going in with an intent to lie would have resulted in a pass. Foreign intelligence agencies of course will know how to beat this flimsy charade, while honest people will be thrown to the lions. Going through a polygraph can also be traumatic (at least it was for us). For those with critical knowedge skills (language, cyber-warfare geeks etc.) new to the intel world, I say, let our experience not be repeated in your life. There are other places to go where your talents will be appreciated, both inside government and out. Don’t believe me? Then look carefully at the numbers above. Let’s take the professional staff, and review together (since that’s what I’m familiar with). First, leave out the 483 folks who are not interested or not available. Presumably they had other opportunities. That leaves 1,406 people that were rejected. 825 of those were due to the polygraph. That’s four sevenths. Four sevenths of these people were rejected because they “failed” the polygraph, the idea being implied (but rarely overtly stated) that this group of people are not honest, or something like that. Honestly now, ask yourself a question. Do you believe that many cheats apply to work for the FBI? Good luck.

]]> By: Dave http://www.clearancejobsblog.com/cleared-news/fbi-applicant-processing/comment-page-1/#comment-46422 Dave Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:41 +0000 http://www.clearancejobsblog.com/?p=794#comment-46422 I am in FBI SA processing and currently 5 months into BI/last stage. My 37 birthday is coming up in January. Do you think that goes into equation for them to speed up/finish my case for approval/disapproval since they have put time/effort/money into my file? I am in FBI SA processing and currently 5 months into BI/last stage.

My 37 birthday is coming up in January. Do you think that goes into equation for them to speed up/finish my case for approval/disapproval since they have put time/effort/money into my file?

]]> By: Marko http://www.clearancejobsblog.com/cleared-news/fbi-applicant-processing/comment-page-1/#comment-46416 Marko Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:15:02 +0000 http://www.clearancejobsblog.com/?p=794#comment-46416 The Polygraph is inadmissable in a court of law simply because they are not accurate. Just as the EX CIA director has said the Poly must be done away with. I am sure the FBI is throwing away good people with the bad. The Polygraph is inadmissable in a court of law simply because they are not accurate. Just as the EX CIA director has said the Poly must be done away with. I am sure the FBI is throwing away good people with the bad.

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